Separation of Church and State, not a “Judeo-Christian value?”

Some genius on a friend’s thread about the pledge of allegiance , went on a rant about how America was “founded on Judeo-Christian principles, that the “Separation of Church and State has been turned on it’s head…” and of course that our founders wanted America to be Christian.

After asking for a definition of “Judeo-Christian Values” I added this comment to the thread:

“When my grandmother was worshiping and praying to her savior, Jesus Christ, if you called her a “Christian” she would slap you in the face. The thing that has been turned on it’s head in the past few decades is the sweeping under the rug of the PROFOUND differences between sects of protestantism, not to mention the irreconcilable schisms between protestant and catholic or catholic and Greek orthodox worship of the New Testament. — “We’re all Christians” is a statement of absolute ignorance of the stark differences in belief of the worlds great religions and the separate versions of the one that uses the new testament. One of the reasons the SEPARATION of CHURCH and state was implemented has never “turned”… it is to keep your sect safe from the others.
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Every sect … or nearly every one… makes it clear that all the others are wrong. If there is an afterlife (no evidence of that exists) and you have to be a protestant to have a good one, you still have only 1 in 23 THOUSAND chances of picking the right one. If you factor in all of the religions that have more than a million adherents who also believe in an afterlife that is dependent on believing the “right” thing, you have a 1 in 200,000 chance of picking the right one.
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The separation of Church and State lets you live your life in the “wrong one” without letting any other sect persecute you. By not allowing the government to choose Catholic, you are safe as a protestant… by not allowing the Government to test candidates to make sure that they are Episcopalian, you as a Baptist may be elected.
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I cannot think of a better value than, “let me believe what I want… and let there be no test of those beliefs If I seek public service.” Jews and “Christians” do not value that. They traditionally value adherence to one value whilst slaughtering tribes that believe differently. It is one of the 10 commandments not to allow those who choose the wrong belief to live with your tolerance. That is a shitty value.
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Our deist founders held NO such values.”  Our deist founders, many of them, preferred what today would be called, atheism, or the rejection of supernatural claims, as anything other than hypothetical.

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In 2015 you have ONE job.

Fox News apparently doesn’t believe that Obama is a war-time president. Though down-shifted, the Oil Wars are still raging. Fox and GOP-fundraisers are already talking about expanding American international warfare.   Those are our choices now, low-burn war or super-war. How did we get stuck here? Reaganomics and WEALTH INEQUALITY.   If you want this to change you have to get back in touch with your inner Democratic-Socialist — and your inner Street Protester and … your inner CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT signer. –

Want clean oceans? Want clean energy? Want to end war? Want to bring jobs home? Want to protect animals from cruelty? Want to protect children from poisons? Want to protect women from being enslaved by theocracy? Want to jail bad bankers? Want to take weapons away from city and county policing? Want to see more opportunities for regular Americans? Want to be able to buy a home? Want to be out of debt? Want universal single payer healthcare?

One thing is overarching all of our actions. One thing must happen first. We must get money out of politics and scare the hell out of the ultra-rich by SHEER NUMBERS of ANGRY AMERICANS on strike in the STREET.  Our fury, our votes, our lawsuits… but mostly our numbers with a SINGLE DEMAND.  Think about it for 2015

Do you remember what big protests look like?

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To 21st Century Capitalist Oligarchs, a WARNING

A warning.

You, decedents of the great western industrial capitalism, you have today ruined it all by allowing your scheme to spread and choke off the host.  Your new capitalism snuffs out democracy. Your modern capitalism even destroys our traditional markets … our MERCANTILE history.

You greedy pigs have killed it all and now your brand of capitalism, as well as 20th century capitalism must be fully replaced.   You shat your own nest until it was irretrievable, not-recyclable and irredeemable. You made a pile of shit with nest pieces hidden within.  We cannot live here. We will not. Your privileges are soon to be revoked. Grab your cash and run away.

Or face us. Face the overwhelming masses against you. – Corporations_ate_my_Baby!

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Are you qualified for democracy?

Lower wages, fewer jobs and bleak futures are the result of decisions. If I ask someone “whose decisions?” and they answer “the president.” they are not *yet* qualified to engage in democracy.


That’s when I do my best to explain what the legislative branch is (2 houses of congress, the house based on population, and the senate based on a “2 each” model.) Then I tell them that they make their decisions based on who pressures them.

Then I tell them that both parties pretty much only listen to the richest and most powerful. Then I tell them that this means the top 0.1% is making the choices regarding our experience of our economy.

Then if they can still follow me, I tell them that getting money out of politics would immediately change the decisions of law makers. Without even discussing the overreach of the supreme court and if they heard me, they are now (possibly) qualified to engage in democracy.

Do you do something like this?

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Guns are tools; tools to make a higher body count

Guns Are Tools… To Make The Body Count Higher.

Excerpt from a blog at “The Progressive Cynic”

“Guns don’t kill people; people kill people” or “ Limiting guns will only lead to violent people simply using other methods of killing large numbers of people”

While it is true that guns are simply tools and have no ability to harm anybody on their own, the assertion that they have no part in the perpetration of violence is absurd.

If properly motivated, somebody can kill their enemy with a pair of nail-clippers, but this is irrelevant to the greater regulatory scheme. Just because there are other ways for people to kill one another, it doesn’t mean that it isn’t in the public interest to restrict the most common way people currently kill each other.

Guns give people a quick, easy, cheap, and relatively detached (compared to stabbings/beatings) method of killing people—even large numbers of people. By making killing easy, guns directly contribute to the thought process that must go into a killing and facilitate even higher body counts. Without guns, people would still kill others, but it would be far more difficult to accrue high body counts.

There is a good reason why guns have become the mass murderer’s weapon of choice; they are simply the most efficient way of getting the job done. Weapons other than guns can be used to kill large numbers of people, but none are as easy to obtain or use as guns:

  • Bombs may be lethal to large numbers of people, but they take expertise to build and are very risky for an amateur to handle (just look at the number of people who manage to mangle themselves playing with fireworks).
  • Knives are lethal in the right hands, but they can only kill one person at a time and have no ability to kill at a distance.
  • Cars can been used to kill people but they are far too large and unwieldy to replace guns (you can’t exactly put one in your backpack to sneak into a school).

A tool may simply be a shortcut to a desired result, but it isn’t fair to say that the tool has no part in achieving a result. A man with a hammer and a man with a gun could kill an identical number of people, but the gun certainly makes it more likely that the person will succeed, faster in their killing spree, and more likely to kill their specific targets.

Guns don’t kill people; people kill people. However, people with guns can easily and quickly kill a lot of people, while those who don’t have guns, cannot. In a country flooded with guns, the mass murderer (or simply the person who wishes to kill one person) is able to obtain their weapon easily and without much risk. Gun control laws may not be perfect, but they are a start on a long road towards a safer America
(This is part of a longer blog…. but I felt this part deserved special attention)

http://theprogressivecynic.com/debunking-right-wing-talking-points/refuting-gun-enthusiasts-anti-gun-control-arguments/

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Religion as Porn Fantasy

I want to keep repeating something about fundamentalism, especially of the Abrahamic variety, Catholicism, Protestantism, Islam and Orthodox or Conservative Judaism. I want to make the point in as many ways that I can that religion is about control of a community. Abrahamic religions are often about Punishment of some members for the authoritarian needs of the rest of the community. Probably in far forgotten times before humans could read and write, these strategies were helpful for the survival of the group. Step over the line, lose your foot. Let that be a lesson to you and all who witnessed.

If they want to get into punishment, let them do it out of the public square

We don't need that authoritarian addiction anymore. When a fundamentalist wants to behead a woman for being wanton, it has less to do with god and more to do with lust. In this case it is a lust for power and control that drives the religious leaders. When a religious television personality wants to make a point about a natural disaster, they always pick a "sin" that bothers them and then pretend that the bad weather was a creator sending a specific message about that sin. More lust for punishment... in this case a full blown fantasy of natures power being aimed at someone as punishment.
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From now on when you see The Westboro Baptists or any other TV or YouTube preachers screaming about hell and punishment I want you to say to yourself, "I'm being shown their fetish. I'm hearing their porn fantasies. They are way into punishment.  I don't have to listen to this. It is within my right to tell them to go do that in private. It is within my right to shame them publicly for sharing inappropriate appetites."

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Disconnect the levers!

I post a lot of facts that should make right-wingers see the light… but they don’t.

“Conservatives” love power.  The facts don’t matter.

If you make the non-rich a struggling working class with very little access to services, you have a ruling class that get to be treated as gods. So far every society ends up going that way before it falls.  Every second we don't vote to tax them more; tax their upper brackets at 90% - and even tax wealth above a billion dollars at 100%, we are in danger of ending the America of our Constitution.

“That lever does damage!”

A world dominated by violent totalitarians (like China or some alliance between former communist nations -- or hell... the Saudi Kingdom) could/would be a dark age that we may never come back from... (unless they stop burning fossil fuels and just hook us all up to pedals.) Without democracy, honest exploration of human potential and scientific discovery (beyond weaponry) ceases.  It's nice that we know why a minimum wage hike would be beneficial, or how climate change works against Wall Street banks and insurance, but before we try to convince rightwing zealots, first we have to disconnect the levers that they manipulate the system with.  Money must be removed from policy.  Until then, we can be "right" all day long but they will use their "might" ... and end the republic.

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