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All gods ever claimed to exist were claimed to exist by humans.
Of the thousand or more god-concepts that are claimed today, right this very second, most contradict or nullify the others. All the claims we have ever seen admit that their god is not detectable from the human perspective. Each god requires you believe on faith, meaning without material evidence. Normally humans don't do that. Normally we check our bank balance to know how much we have. We don't bank on faith. Presumably,banking is not nearly as important as how you relate to the entire universe... so you would really want some solid evidence before picking one of the 1000 current (or the thousands of previous) gods to believe in without evidence.
What to do?
Your best bet is to reject claims of Allah, Shiva, Jehovah and L.Ron's Ghost until such time as there is a shred of evidence for one of them. You can't, as the church lady will admonish you to, rely on faith. Which one do you have faith in? The one that's popular geographically? That's for Kardashians, not for omnipotent creators of space and time. Nope.
You just have to take the default position. That makes sense, right? If one of these claims is true, or there is a god who has not yet been defined, you would think and hope that they would appreciate your intelligence and patience in the matter of that discovery. If that space monster blames you, he/she/it is an asswipe.
In the meantime, ain't nature grand?!
Some genius on a friend’s thread about the pledge of allegiance , went on a rant about how America was “founded on Judeo-Christian principles, that the “Separation of Church and State has been turned on it’s head…” and of course that our founders wanted America to be Christian.
After asking for a definition of “Judeo-Christian Values” I added this comment to the thread:
“When my grandmother was worshiping and praying to her savior, Jesus Christ, if you called her a “Christian” she would slap you in the face. The thing that has been turned on it’s head in the past few decades is the sweeping under the rug of the PROFOUND differences between sects of protestantism, not to mention the irreconcilable schisms between protestant and catholic or catholic and Greek orthodox worship of the New Testament. — “We’re all Christians” is a statement of absolute ignorance of the stark differences in belief of the worlds great religions and the separate versions of the one that uses the new testament. One of the reasons the SEPARATION of CHURCH and state was implemented has never “turned”… it is to keep your sect safe from the others.
Every sect … or nearly every one… makes it clear that all the others are wrong. If there is an afterlife (no evidence of that exists) and you have to be a protestant to have a good one, you still have only 1 in 23 THOUSAND chances of picking the right one. If you factor in all of the religions that have more than a million adherents who also believe in an afterlife that is dependent on believing the “right” thing, you have a 1 in 200,000 chance of picking the right one.
The separation of Church and State lets you live your life in the “wrong one” without letting any other sect persecute you. By not allowing the government to choose Catholic, you are safe as a protestant… by not allowing the Government to test candidates to make sure that they are Episcopalian, you as a Baptist may be elected.
I cannot think of a better value than, “let me believe what I want… and let there be no test of those beliefs If I seek public service.” Jews and “Christians” do not value that. They traditionally value adherence to one value whilst slaughtering tribes that believe differently. It is one of the 10 commandments not to allow those who choose the wrong belief to live with your tolerance. That is a shitty value.
Our deist founders held NO such values.” Our deist founders, many of them, preferred what today would be called, atheism, or the rejection of supernatural claims, as anything other than hypothetical.
I want to keep repeating something about fundamentalism, especially of the Abrahamic variety, Catholicism, Protestantism, Islam and Orthodox or Conservative Judaism. I want to make the point in as many ways that I can that religion is about control of a community. Abrahamic religions are often about Punishment of some members for the authoritarian needs of the rest of the community. Probably in far forgotten times before humans could read and write, these strategies were helpful for the survival of the group. Step over the line, lose your foot. Let that be a lesson to you and all who witnessed.
We don't need that authoritarian addiction anymore. When a fundamentalist wants to behead a woman for being wanton, it has less to do with god and more to do with lust. In this case it is a lust for power and control that drives the religious leaders. When a religious television personality wants to make a point about a natural disaster, they always pick a "sin" that bothers them and then pretend that the bad weather was a creator sending a specific message about that sin. More lust for punishment... in this case a full blown fantasy of natures power being aimed at someone as punishment.
From now on when you see The Westboro Baptists or any other TV or YouTube preachers screaming about hell and punishment I want you to say to yourself, "I'm being shown their fetish. I'm hearing their porn fantasies. They are way into punishment. I don't have to listen to this. It is within my right to tell them to go do that in private. It is within my right to shame them publicly for sharing inappropriate appetites."
Gawd Bless Owrr Cuntree