“[Yes! The Devil!] You’re looking at me as though I’m weird. My god! Are you so out of touch with most of America, most of which believes in the devil? I mean, Jesus Christ believed in the devil! It’s in the Gospels! You travel in circles that are so, so removed from mainstream America that you are appalled that anybody would believe in the devil! Most of mankind has believed in the devil, for all of history. Many more intelligent people than you or me have believed in the devil.” – Antonin Scalia, (a Justice of the US Supreme Court… FROM THE BENCH.)
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All gods ever claimed to exist were claimed to exist by humans.
Of the thousand or more god-concepts that are claimed today, right this very second, most contradict or nullify the others. All the claims we have ever seen admit that their god is not detectable from the human perspective. Each god requires you believe on faith, meaning without material evidence. Normally humans don't do that. Normally we check our bank balance to know how much we have. We don't bank on faith. Presumably,banking is not nearly as important as how you relate to the entire universe... so you would really want some solid evidence before picking one of the 1000 current (or the thousands of previous) gods to believe in without evidence.
What to do?
Your best bet is to reject claims of Allah, Shiva, Jehovah and L.Ron's Ghost until such time as there is a shred of evidence for one of them. You can't, as the church lady will admonish you to, rely on faith. Which one do you have faith in? The one that's popular geographically? That's for Kardashians, not for omnipotent creators of space and time. Nope.
You just have to take the default position. That makes sense, right? If one of these claims is true, or there is a god who has not yet been defined, you would think and hope that they would appreciate your intelligence and patience in the matter of that discovery. If that space monster blames you, he/she/it is an asswipe.
In the meantime, ain't nature grand?!
Some genius on a friend’s thread about the pledge of allegiance , went on a rant about how America was “founded on Judeo-Christian principles, that the “Separation of Church and State has been turned on it’s head…” and of course that our founders wanted America to be Christian.
After asking for a definition of “Judeo-Christian Values” I added this comment to the thread:
“When my grandmother was worshiping and praying to her savior, Jesus Christ, if you called her a “Christian” she would slap you in the face. The thing that has been turned on it’s head in the past few decades is the sweeping under the rug of the PROFOUND differences between sects of protestantism, not to mention the irreconcilable schisms between protestant and catholic or catholic and Greek orthodox worship of the New Testament. — “We’re all Christians” is a statement of absolute ignorance of the stark differences in belief of the worlds great religions and the separate versions of the one that uses the new testament. One of the reasons the SEPARATION of CHURCH and state was implemented has never “turned”… it is to keep your sect safe from the others.
Every sect … or nearly every one… makes it clear that all the others are wrong. If there is an afterlife (no evidence of that exists) and you have to be a protestant to have a good one, you still have only 1 in 23 THOUSAND chances of picking the right one. If you factor in all of the religions that have more than a million adherents who also believe in an afterlife that is dependent on believing the “right” thing, you have a 1 in 200,000 chance of picking the right one.
The separation of Church and State lets you live your life in the “wrong one” without letting any other sect persecute you. By not allowing the government to choose Catholic, you are safe as a protestant… by not allowing the Government to test candidates to make sure that they are Episcopalian, you as a Baptist may be elected.
I cannot think of a better value than, “let me believe what I want… and let there be no test of those beliefs If I seek public service.” Jews and “Christians” do not value that. They traditionally value adherence to one value whilst slaughtering tribes that believe differently. It is one of the 10 commandments not to allow those who choose the wrong belief to live with your tolerance. That is a shitty value.
Our deist founders held NO such values.” Our deist founders, many of them, preferred what today would be called, atheism, or the rejection of supernatural claims, as anything other than hypothetical.